Think back to your schooldays. Were you expected to sit in a neat row of desks? Did you raise your hand when you needed to ask a question?

Matthew Monson is the director of operations, maintenance, and safety for Ozark City Schools. He’s also a former teacher and principal. Today on the Growing the Forest and the Trees podcast, he’ll talk about why he encourages teachers to ditch the traditional, regimented classroom and embrace the mess.